an emergency meeting has been called by jack dowson at london bethel.
all co's and do's were recalled yesterday and are meeting at 2pm today in bethel (most have left the visiting congregations in limbo.
the meeting is today(starts at 2pm), tomorrow and finishing on friday at 12 noon.
I've noted all the comments
Just one thing
Can anyone remember the last time all the CO's and DO's were pulled away from Circuit Assemblys, Circuit Visits etc for a 2 Day meeting?
I've been in the JW's for 34 years and never seen this before.
BTW the CO and DO's meeting for the elders school in UK took place 5 weeks ago - so this has nothing to do with that - it was planned 4 months ago
Jim
an emergency meeting has been called by jack dowson at london bethel.
all co's and do's were recalled yesterday and are meeting at 2pm today in bethel (most have left the visiting congregations in limbo.
the meeting is today(starts at 2pm), tomorrow and finishing on friday at 12 noon.
An emergency meeting has been called by Jack Dowson at London Bethel
All CO's and DO's were recalled yesterday and are meeting at 2pm today in Bethel (Most have left the visiting congregations in limbo. The meeting is today(starts at 2pm), tomorrow and finishing on Friday at 12 noon. Also attending are the Press co-ordinators.
The agenda is as follows (sorry only got a 2 min window to read the fax):-
1. Child Abuse - managing the problems of the Press, further information on Bill Bowen, state of congregations, managing the issues the bad press is giving, seeking out the leaks in the congregations.
2. How to deal with alleged child molesters in the congregations - neutralise gossip
3. Tax matters arising from the potential bad press
Apparently 2 are over from New York (Don't know who, will try to find out)
Jim
i knocked on the locked door of the appeal hearing last night after they had dismissed bill and told the six elders that i had something to say to them and told them it was summed up it a letter i had written.i then asked them if i could read it to them and they could have their own copy when i was finished.they said that would be fine.. here it is.
governing body,.
25 columbia heights.
Shelia
Get to the point and say what you mean. Your letter really is non focused and lacks punch!!
Seriously, a fine letter that is accurate and tells it as it is
Sadly I think it may do little good to those who should listen to it
Jim
uk re panorama program .
a letter has been sent to all po's private addresses to be read out to each uk congregation this sunday - the wt is to be 35 mins long and the lette will take 25 mons to read it.. the instructions on it are :-.
1. read it yourself.
UK Re Panorama Program
A letter has been sent to all PO's private addresses to be read out to each Uk congregation this Sunday - the WT is to be 35 mins long and the lette will take 25 mons to read it.
The instructions on it are :-
1. Read it yourself
2. Inform the Congregation Secretary of its existance, but NOT its content - the letter IS NOT to be read to any Elder to group of Elders
3. Read to the Congregation after a shortened WT Study
The letter is re Parorama and details (not in any order as I only had a brief glimpse of it):-
1. The way the media is guided by Satan
2. That the Congregation can expect attacks from Satan and the media - it is a sign of the last days
3. The apostates are behind the program twisting the Truth
4. The Society operates within the law of the UK
5. The Society has a long history of protecting Children
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Notes on the full letter to follow tomorrow
Bethel are VERY worried
Jim.
the bad note taker strikes again!!
jim .
concluding talk at the coventry assembly.
The bad note taker strikes again!!
Jim
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Concluding talk at the Coventry Assembly
Faithful and Discreet Slave awakens our minds to the urgency of preaching the good news
Zeph 1:14
Many examples here at this assembly
Friday am
Faith Strengthening examples of unflagging zeal are Jehovah and Jesus they never give up
Friday pm
Reminders to become fearless especially with large properties- gates that always creak, crunching pathways, Door Bells that always work. All designed to put us off.
Beware of the snare of flirting, guard against Riches, Worship Jehovah acceptably.
Saturday theme 1 Pet 3:13
Need to focus on starting bible studies; we need to ask for them from Jehovah in Prayer the householder
Open our eyes like Elisa see Jehovahs help. We face various trials; improve the quality of our faith
Draw close to Jehovah and his outstanding qualities.
Sunday
Be moved by the Drama to remain firm in troublesome times, because they are coming brothers they are coming
Well done to all at the assembly 1,091 Volunteers, 19 baptized
Keep separate from the World, its conflicts and its turbulence even if it affects our life
Never allow opposition from the world to make you fearful
Governing Body wants to relate the following
Georgia
Jan 22 Awake religious persecution in Georgia 80 violent attacks 1000 victims
April mob attacked meeting, Police called and condemned the brothers! Peak 15,137 publishers March 32,000 at Memorial
Argentina
Strikes, floods, financial crisis Peak 123,709 277,307 @ Memorial
Mexico
550,864 Publishers in March 12 th consecutive peak
Liberia
Civil unrest, brothers had to move to safer areas 3,500 publishers 24,400 at Memorial
Is there a foot on our brake or are we pressing the accelerator?
In the UK there has been marvelous increases thats to the reports of the elderly and infirm and the new method of reporting through the groups 2% increase and 42,000 Bible studies a significant increase
Tremendous growth in the foreign language (F/L) field 56 Foreign language congregations and 169 F/L groups in 25 Congregations
Progress in Chinese Language at universities What has Jehovah in mind for mainland china ?
113 million Mags and Brochures out of Bethel London
36 Languages
65 Countries
Some of the shipping will return to France in October
HLC Letter from the Blood Transfusion Service commending the Society
RBC - 17 New Halls, 53 Refurbished
Prov 28:20
Next Year
Many 3 day Direct Conventions
4 Day international Assemblys info to follow
Jehovah praises our work
below are notes of the sunday post drama talk - taken very badly by someone who cannot do shorthand
sorry - best i could do - note the anti media comments at the end.
jim dee notes on the talk - be like jeremiah, fearlessly proclaim the word of jehovah.
Sorry - best I could do - note the anti media comments at the end
Jim Dee
Br Boufort @ Coventry Assembly
Since 1919 we have been experiencing some like Jeremiah could only dream about
We have something Delightful, Beautiful, Life Preserving yes our being gathered here shows what that a Spiritual Paradise Jehovah has provided.
Even though we have these benefits- out times are troublesome and worse that Jeremiahs times
The reason we suffer is that People dont understand our way of true worship Jer 15:18-19
People criticise and ridicule Jehovahs people, sometimes it is outright hate
Financial pressure, family arrangements are under attack as well as health problems our love for Jehovah can be worn down.
How can we cope and fearlessly proclaim the good news? Rom 15:4
Our reason for hope is that the Bible drama seen today is part of the things written beforehand.
The benefits the Spiritual Paradise brings us? Heb 12:2
Look back into the things written beforehand and - or look ahead into the things prophesied either way we look we can gain hope
We can learn many lessons from Jeremiah
1. Drama showed Elders and little boys joining in
Do we feel weary and sigh?
Baruch started to try and create a comfort zone around him told by Jehovah this was wrong Jer 45:5 reminded not to put trust in men
Jeremiah
From early times Jeremiah was insecure Jer 20:9
Not a fluent public speaker
How could Jeremiah continue Jer 20:11
We can count on Jehovah as we live in a Spiritual Paradise
Jehovahs people face problems as an organisation
France Malicious Propaganda Brothers Persecuted
People distributing literature at our ground to discredit Jehovah
Jer 15:16
We must show ourselves eager as in Jeremiahs day = 2 Tim 1:7-8
Need to keep a sound mind in troublesome times
Jeremiah was very careful of his associates - there is a fine lesson in that Jer 15:17
If Jeremiah was living in the 21 st Century the media, TV and movies he would have nothing to do with them our lot is to use the Christian Brotherhood
Make it our resolve not to be associated with those who criticise us the cannot win against us
Have Jeremiahs courage
We look forward to serving in the earthly paradise in the new system
a bit of a follow on from the "honesty" thread.. another claim that jws make is that they have stronger marriages and are less likely to divorce.. try writing down all the jw couples that you know of that have divorced.. there are bonus points for those who didnt make 2yrs!.
i think you will be shocked at the number you can come up with.
we came up with 60 couples in less than 20mins.
JW's for years claimed that
"divorce was rare / unheard of"
I got married in Liverpool 19 years ago and the following is a fact
The marriage before us - he was made an Elder - Divorce - his infidelity
The one before that Divorce - He was made a MS - but divorced re his unresonable behavior because of money worries - (because he could not remarry he spent the night with another women just to get the divorce on scriptual reasons) - now happily married
The marriage after us - still together, but terribly unhappy, rows like yu have never heard
The one after that - Both pioneering till last year when she ran off with another girl
And mine - well we have "issues"
Most couples are together because the truth is the only thing in common.Couples burn out because of 5 meetings a week, bible study, field service etc. They stay because of family, friends, social standing
Most are dreadfully unhappy
Jim
of course were all so familiar with the way the society covers up it tracks and it has taken a lot of work to expose its coruption.. but are there more sinister discoveries awaiting?.
why is the society so keen to cover up peadophilia in the organisation?.
does it reach higher than we are presently aware?.
"Follow the Money"
Woodwood and Bernstien - Washington Post
for any who were former elders: suppose a sister was interested in a brother and she called the elders in his cong.
however, the brother was reproved.
if the sister knew about the reproof already, would you as an elder proceed to tell the sister about the details of the reproof?
When an Elder
If it was a public reproof - yes if the Brother was still under restrictions
If it was a private reproof no - breach of confidentiality
Now
Tell her its none of her business and "get a life"
Jim
the tragedy in oregon could be concieved by some as "pushing a man beyond all human limits" and therefore the "pusher" (ie the wtbs) is guilty.. clearly mr bryant was not in a stable state of mind - so what caused the inbalance?
clearly the action of the society.
the wtbs would counter and say it was mr bryant that caused the problem by his "black heart and rebel attitude".. so who was responsible?
The Tragedy in Oregon could be concieved by some as "pushing a man beyond all human limits" and therefore the "pusher" (ie the WTBS) is guilty.
Clearly Mr Bryant was not in a stable state of mind - so what caused the inbalance? Clearly the action of the society. The WTBS would counter and say it was Mr Bryant that caused the problem by his "black heart and rebel attitude".
So who was responsible? If it was not the WTBS, will the GB attend the funeral, pay their respects and offer comfort to the grieving relatives - or will they tell all relatives not to go to the funeral and try to hide their guilt under "theocratic procedure"
Either way it stinks. The children are guilty of nothing other than victims of the Societies policies.
Views please
Jim
